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Who should be the next president of the US?
John McCain
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Barack Obama
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 10:46 pm

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The war is a good, becuse we are saving other peoples lifes and astablishing govement, there so they could live in harmony. Instead of being terroized by Talobaned, and muslim exstreamists.

They can't be stoped but caned be controlled.
Here are some stats for you.

In the 9/11 terrorist attacks 3,000 people died.
In the war in iraq, stats indicate that between 150,000 and 1,000,000 people have died (based on this i don't think the higher end is all the US's fault)
the lower end of that range is over 50 times the ammount of people that died in 9/11.

My Point: The war is killing more people then it's saving
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 10:47 pm

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obama wants to enforce schools to teach sex educaton to Kindergarden to 12. now that will not be a good thing because little kids shouldent know about tha stuff, it ruins there child hood. And should be tought in 5th grade about that. Also kindergarderners are young and silly, and may try the thins they learn. Overall it ruins childhood.


I hope you realize that by sex education Obama means ways not to get molested and other age appropriate curriculum.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 10:47 pm

Link3618 wrote:
Lord Revan67 wrote:
Link, it's a good thing you can't vote!


First off, who cares who Obama was with a LONG TIME AGO when he was a CHILD. Second, I do not get how you can get racism in Obama? Thats something the rednecks came up with to stop an black president. Also, what is all the madness of kicking shit out of Iraqis? It sounds like your planning holocaust 2.


...................... Think about the problems that actually matter, not personal attacks on rumor and speculation..................

i like Mccain because he is in my opioion better than obama, There is no proof obama is better than McCain, or mcCain being better than obama. but i see that A republican should be preseden. Reveran white is a rasist he was being a rasist on national telivision. And obama being with him for more than, 2o years, to me he is a rasist. (you cant change m mind0

He says gas is to exspencive, (its 2.17 at costco) and 2.47 at 7/11)

He is no on prop 8. For me im a christion and i feel that, marrige shoud be sacred, and marrige is indeed a sacrament, in contrast, God says marrige is sacred and should be between a man and a women, so im with god on this 1.

The war is a good, becuse we are saving other peoples lifes and astablishing govement, there so they could live in harmony. Instead of being terroized by Talobaned, and muslim exstreamists.

They can't be stoped but caned be controlled.

Personal attacks.......? (Obama attack a citizen (Joe the plummer) and looked uphis backround and everything. COME ON thats just cold.

obama wants to enforce schools to teach sex educaton to Kindergarden to 12. now that will not be a good thing because little kids shouldent know about tha stuff, it ruins there child hood. And should be tought in 5th grade about that. Also kindergarderners are young and silly, and may try the thins they learn. Overall it ruins childhood.

McCain wants to use market competion to help generate affordible and portable heath care. So if you work for a company, you can get GOOD quality heath care.

bama wants to tax the rich 93% That is not fair, PLUS the poor will be taxed 5% and middle class only 2%. That is just unfair. Because you are working for money, but it will be takin awa. even though they have MORE than enough money it is tere hard earned cash.


Those are my final views
dang, gas is like 2.69 where i am
and prices were 4 bucks a month ago
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 10:49 pm

Bringer of Death wrote:
I've been keeping up with the posts in the thread, and would like to rebut him(without registering).

Link3618 wrote:
I am not a stupid kid, i get good grades, and domone in my debate classs, i even make the teacher sweat.
He might be smart for his age(Pretty good is far from excellent), but that's just it: For his age. He hasn't experienced enough yet, due to his age, to form a valid opinion of what he truly thinks.

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So dont tell me im listining to my parents because they are telling me EXACTLY what McCain says on his website, and i watch the obama interviews.
He outright says he's listening to his parents. If they were spouting out that Obama's the man, they'd give valid reasons for it he'd just as easily believe. But they're obviously pro-McCain, so they don't. The Obama interviews, I'm assuming, were seen on anti-Obama channels like Fox News, and were peppered in with mommy and daddy's propaganda for McCain, to boot.

I'm willing to bet that Link3618 couldn't even form his own opinion, segregated from his parent's opinions, about who to vote for because none of the stuff that's going on applies to him. I get the impression he's just pro McCain because his parents say "This is why McCain is good" and he's telling himself "By golly, that does sound good, so he must be right." Everything the candidates say is good, otherwise they wouldn't be saying it. The key point is if it's good in your favor. That is why some support Obama and some support McCain. That is also why Link3618 cannot have a valid opinion: none of the stuff applies to him.

As an illustration of how easily he could swing to being Anti-McCain the second it applies to him personally: he'd be anti-McCain faster than the blink of an eye if McCain reinstituted the draft(and included Link3618's age) because he wanted to keep the war going.

::edit:: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL He "listens to O'Reily and Hannity" and he thinks that makes him unbiased. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL and a half!
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:00 pm

I am indeed intellegent for my age and still amange to have a life Rolling Eyes

My dad used to be liberal like 7 months ago, and almost devorced our parents, but my dad opened his eyes.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:04 pm

Link3618 wrote:
I am indeed intellegent for my age and still amange to have a life Rolling Eyes

My dad used to be liberal like 7 months ago, and almost devorced our parents, but my dad opened his eyes.

You may be "intellegent" for your age, but you certainly don't act very smart. You can't accept everything you hear for truth: you need to read between the lines and figure out peoples' biases. Before you can manage that, then your opinions will be based of faulty information, leaving you open to copious amounts of criticism.


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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:06 pm

Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
I am indeed intellegent for my age and still amange to have a life Rolling Eyes

My dad used to be liberal like 7 months ago, and almost devorced our parents, but my dad opened his eyes.

You may be "intellegent" for your age, but you certainly don't act very smart. You can't accept everything you hear for truth: you need to read between the lines and figure out people's bias. Before you can manage that, then your opinions will be based of faulty information, leaving you open to copious amounts of criticism.

There is no truth (right or erong) in polotics ( democrat republican wise)
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I think he's misinterpreting my point about "hasn't experienced enough yet" to "has no life." Real great job there proving how smart you are, chief.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:09 pm

Link3618 wrote:
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Link3618 wrote:
I am indeed intellegent for my age and still amange to have a life Rolling Eyes

My dad used to be liberal like 7 months ago, and almost devorced our parents, but my dad opened his eyes.

You may be "intellegent" for your age, but you certainly don't act very smart. You can't accept everything you hear for truth: you need to read between the lines and figure out people's bias. Before you can manage that, then your opinions will be based of faulty information, leaving you open to copious amounts of criticism.

There is no truth (right or erong) in polotics ( democrat republican wise)

Not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean. Anyway, there is information based on lies, which is what I was trying to convey to you. For instance, the fact that Barack Obama did crack, probably a steaming pile of bull honkey.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:11 pm

QWERTYkid911 wrote:
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I think he's misinterpreting my point about "hasn't experienced enough yet" to "has no life." Real great job there proving how smart you are, chief.

I apply whats happining politicly to real life things, ike what coul they be doing to get beetter schools, hmm a skate park would go great here how can they found for this. Should theyraise taxes 2% for 2 years to get money then lower it to 1.5% hmm?

I think polotics a lot. And plug in what the news says, (both FOX and CNN) into my life.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:12 pm

Zigglett wrote:
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Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
I am indeed intellegent for my age and still amange to have a life Rolling Eyes

My dad used to be liberal like 7 months ago, and almost devorced our parents, but my dad opened his eyes.

You may be "intellegent" for your age, but you certainly don't act very smart. You can't accept everything you hear for truth: you need to read between the lines and figure out people's bias. Before you can manage that, then your opinions will be based of faulty information, leaving you open to copious amounts of criticism.

There is no truth (right or erong) in polotics ( democrat republican wise)

Not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean. Anyway, there is information based on lies, which is what I was trying to convey to you. For instance, the fact that Barack Obama did crack, probably a steaming pile of bull honkey.

Now little things like that i know are unaccptible. But the fact he supports ACORN is bad.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:14 pm

Link3618 wrote:
QWERTYkid911 wrote:
Bringer of Death wrote:
I think he's misinterpreting my point about "hasn't experienced enough yet" to "has no life." Real great job there proving how smart you are, chief.

I apply whats happining politicly to real life things, ike what coul they be doing to get beetter schools, hmm a skate park would go great here how can they found for this. Should theyraise taxes 2% for 2 years to get money then lower it to 1.5% hmm?

I think polotics a lot. And plug in what the news says, (both FOX and CNN) into my life.


Wow, that sentence really damaged any image I had of you actually knowing about politics. (it's spelled politics by the way)
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:16 pm

Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
QWERTYkid911 wrote:
Bringer of Death wrote:
I think he's misinterpreting my point about "hasn't experienced enough yet" to "has no life." Real great job there proving how smart you are, chief.

I apply whats happining politicly to real life things, ike what coul they be doing to get beetter schools, hmm a skate park would go great here how can they found for this. Should theyraise taxes 2% for 2 years to get money then lower it to 1.5% hmm?

I think polotics a lot. And plug in what the news says, (both FOX and CNN) into my life.


Wow, that sentence really damaged any image I had of you actually knowing about politics. (it's spelled politics by the way)

DUDE IM JUS AS SMART AS YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. WERE DO U GET YOUR INFO FROM?
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:16 pm

Link3618 wrote:
Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
I am indeed intellegent for my age and still amange to have a life Rolling Eyes

My dad used to be liberal like 7 months ago, and almost devorced our parents, but my dad opened his eyes.

You may be "intellegent" for your age, but you certainly don't act very smart. You can't accept everything you hear for truth: you need to read between the lines and figure out people's bias. Before you can manage that, then your opinions will be based of faulty information, leaving you open to copious amounts of criticism.

There is no truth (right or erong) in polotics ( democrat republican wise)

Not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean. Anyway, there is information based on lies, which is what I was trying to convey to you. For instance, the fact that Barack Obama did crack, probably a steaming pile of bull honkey.

Now little things like that i know are unaccptible. But the fact he supports ACORN is bad.


I honestly haven't looked into the ACORN "scandal" too much, so I'm not going to comment. However, you still don't seem to know what's based of real fact and what people pull out of their ass.




-sorry if I double posted-
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:18 pm

You still yet to answer my question.

Were do u get your info from?
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:19 pm

Link3618 wrote:
Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
QWERTYkid911 wrote:
Bringer of Death wrote:
I think he's misinterpreting my point about "hasn't experienced enough yet" to "has no life." Real great job there proving how smart you are, chief.

I apply whats happining politicly to real life things, ike what coul they be doing to get beetter schools, hmm a skate park would go great here how can they found for this. Should theyraise taxes 2% for 2 years to get money then lower it to 1.5% hmm?

I think polotics a lot. And plug in what the news says, (both FOX and CNN) into my life.


Wow, that sentence really damaged any image I had of you actually knowing about politics. (it's spelled politics by the way)

DUDE IM JUS AS SMART AS YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. WERE DO U GET YOUR INFO FROM?


Well first of all, I watch all of the news channels not just the incredibly biased ones like FOX. Also, I discuss a lot of these issues in class when my social studies class gets off track sometimes. I also do a lot of research. When I see something like "Barack Obama want's sex education for children as young as kindergarden" I research people's facts from multiple sides of the debate.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:21 pm

Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
Zigglett wrote:
Link3618 wrote:
QWERTYkid911 wrote:
Bringer of Death wrote:
I think he's misinterpreting my point about "hasn't experienced enough yet" to "has no life." Real great job there proving how smart you are, chief.

I apply whats happining politicly to real life things, ike what coul they be doing to get beetter schools, hmm a skate park would go great here how can they found for this. Should theyraise taxes 2% for 2 years to get money then lower it to 1.5% hmm?

I think polotics a lot. And plug in what the news says, (both FOX and CNN) into my life.


Wow, that sentence really damaged any image I had of you actually knowing about politics. (it's spelled politics by the way)

DUDE IM JUS AS SMART AS YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. WERE DO U GET YOUR INFO FROM?



I watch both sides, CNN and Fox They are both biased.

He sid he wanted to teach sex ed on Nation TV

Well first of all, I watch all of the news channels not just the incredibly biased ones like FOX. Also, I discuss a lot of these issues in class when my social studies class gets off track sometimes. I also do a lot of research. When I see something like "Barack Obama want's sex education for children as young as kindergarden" I research people's facts from multiple sides of the debate.
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 01, 2008 11:33 pm

I'm going to try to ignore how retarded that last post was. There are a few problems with what you tried to say.

1) There are more News channels than just CNN and Fox. Although CNN is a little liberal, they are pretty unbiased or at least nowhere near as biased as FOX is.

2) I've seen the John McCain campaign ad which did in fact say kindergarden
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PostSubject: Re: WFB US Presidential Election   WFB US Presidential Election - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 02, 2008 2:54 am

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Now little things like that i know are unaccptible. But the fact he supports ACORN is bad.

As a quick statement, I can't believe I'm biting. goddamn i'm bored.

-Any negative tie of Barack Obama to ACORN has been disproven. Read this and shut up. Find me a legitimate article linking Obama to the actual "voter fraud".

-Iraq and 9/11 are completely unaffiliated. I shouldn't even have to cite that. Quit being a moron.

-Obama isn't a racist. Find me a good source claiming otherwise.

I'm not even sure what other stupid bull you can come up with in response. So I'll let you do it for me.
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Now little things like that i know are unaccptible. But the fact he supports ACORN is bad.

As a quick statement, I can't believe I'm biting. goddamn i'm bored.

-Any negative tie of Barack Obama to ACORN has been disproven. Read this and shut up. Find me a legitimate article linking Obama to the actual "voter fraud".

-Iraq and 9/11 are completely unaffiliated. I shouldn't even have to cite that. Quit being a moron.

-Obama isn't a racist. Find me a good source claiming otherwise.

I'm not even sure what other stupid bull you can come up with in response. So


I'll let you do it for me.


HOW DARE U SAY 9/11 wasnt the cause of the war. bush isnt behind it. Congress would have never passed this idea, and bush would have been impeached. They attacked us so we responded.
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Link3618 wrote:
tekkie wrote:
Link3618 wrote:


Now little things like that i know are unaccptible. But the fact he supports ACORN is bad.

As a quick statement, I can't believe I'm biting. goddamn i'm bored.

-Any negative tie of Barack Obama to ACORN has been disproven. Read this and shut up. Find me a legitimate article linking Obama to the actual "voter fraud".

-Iraq and 9/11 are completely unaffiliated. I shouldn't even have to cite that. Quit being a moron.

-Obama isn't a racist. Find me a good source claiming otherwise.

I'm not even sure what other stupid bull you can come up with in response. So


I'll let you do it for me.


HOW DARE U SAY 9/11 wasnt the cause of the war. bush isnt behind it. Congress would have never passed this idea, and bush would have been impeached. They attacked us so we responded.
how in the world would he get impeached for suggesting an invasion???
use ur common sense, and also know what u need to do to get impeached
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Ok in my mind 9/11 was a conspiracy, such mysteriousness behind it...some that are never likely to be proven, but from what i've seen/read to me its a conspiracy. And link, your whole "political" view is un-intelligent. Now I've seen the campaign trails and what not, from what i see is this. First off, Mcain runs a VERY negative campaign, he NEEDS to bad mouth obama just to get some votes. Obama dosent need to do that crap at all. Also, long time back, Sadaam Hussien was GOOD friends with G. W. Bush. Infact they traded arms together. It was when Bush implied for Sadaam to start soemthing (cant remember off the top of my head) is when this dumb war started. And look at it this way, if your fuckin coutnry was being blown to fucking pieces wouldnt you bomb the fucking country that was attacking? WAR IS NOT GOOD U JEWBAGEL...JUST REMEMBER THAT BEFORE U START MCAIN HUMPING
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Ok in my mind 9/11 was a conspiracy, such mysteriousness behind it...some that are never likely to be proven, but from what i've seen/read to me its a conspiracy. And link, your whole "political" view is un-intelligent. Now I've seen the campaign trails and what not, from what i see is this. First off, Mcain runs a VERY negative campaign, he NEEDS to bad mouth obama just to get some votes. Obama dosent need to do that crap at all. Also, long time back, Sadaam Hussien was GOOD friends with G. W. Bush. Infact they traded arms together. It was when Bush implied for Sadaam to start soemthing (cant remember off the top of my head) is when this dumb war started. And look at it this way, if your fuckin coutnry was being blown to fucking pieces wouldnt you bomb the fucking country that was attacking? WAR IS NOT GOOD U JEWBAGEL...JUST REMEMBER THAT BEFORE U START MCAIN HUMPING
What makes you think 9/11 was a conspiracy?
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tell him to stop watching fox news.

Fuck it, I'll bite.

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You people dont even undersand polotics. Every dinner my parents make me watch the news, and exsplain atleast a hour of things to me. Now my sisters being obama fans, we often have debates at the table and tehy always loose.

"My parents force-feed me my opinion."

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Obama also is a rasist in my opioion. Revran wite Stated all these rasist things. Obama, being apart of the church for over 20 years, states that he HAS NEVER been preeched before.,,, (lies)

Pro tip: Saying "in my opinion" doesn't mean you can't be wrong. Obama has not echoed any of Reverend Wright's sentiments. Even if Obama was racist, it wouldn't change how right or wrong he is about every one of his platforms. Try going after the issues and not Obama's character, oh wait, this is America, my bad.

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Also affiliating with bill Aiers, and Supporting ACORN.

They served on a committee together, that's it; a committee, mind you, that took place many years after Bill Ayers' radical years. Don't know what ACORN is, so, I can't comment.

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Now for the war he wants to focus on Afganastand. BUT if we take our troops out of Iraq then, the talloban will move into Iraq again, and will set up bases and begin terrorising the people again, and Obama will move the troops back into Iraq. Now he wasted 7 years of progress.

Taliban was never in Iraq, so, they can't possibly "move into Iraq again" but, you're right, let's just stay in Iraq. No one wants to catch bin Laden and we love spending billions of dollars every month while our economy tanks.

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For all the non american users.

the war should be important to you guys. (american users) Remember they attacked us. They came into our country hijacked 4 plaines, and killed thousands of people. We had to respond, so we go in there and kick the living poopy out of them. And we are still killing them.

Okay? Then why are we in Iraq if it's about the 9/11 terrorists? Shouldn't we be in Afghanistan and Pakistan to finish the job? Iraq wasn't involved in 9/11, so, why are we still there when we knew years ago that bin Laden was not in Iraq?

Tell him to learn how to get a basic grasp on grammar for christ's sake, while you're at it.
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Well said not dryad. I would have wrote that myself but you did it for me I guess. That is exactly what I try to tell them but it doesn't come out that well worded.
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