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Obama.....

Post  Link3618 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:12 pm

he is failing

what would the founding fathers think of him. They did not base tis country on Socialistic visions


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Lord Revan67 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:08 pm

This isnt a socialist country. Hes not a socialist. You cant classify helping your country as a socialistic belief.


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Slayer9498 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:23 pm

how can you be failing after 2 months......


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Link3618 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:13 pm

Lord Revan67 wrote:This isnt a socialist country. Hes not a socialist. You cant classify helping your country as a socialistic belief.


He is a liberal with socialistic beliefs


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Link3618 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:58 pm

It is not fair for people who go to collage for 10 freakin years and have to pay exstream taxes for slakers who live in a motel, and are unimployed...

Everyone has a chance to suceed even if u are born into poverty. Look at Tyra Banks, Opera, and Henry Ford... those are just some of the multi million airs, but there are a lot of above averge people that were born into poverty and did something with their life.

The Bible even states there shall always be the poor, and the rich

Most Liberal People are unimployed, collage students, and with obama black peopl (i am not a rasist i am watching this poll on Hannity right now)

Liberals wont look back into the regan era. I mean if u dont over tax the companies exstream amounts, they could hire, and then people could make money, and buy a new house or car and its a chain to stimulate the economy.

For my dads company over 20 people a day are getting laid off. Now if the goverment wasnt over taxing Roadway/Yellow they could keep those people and they would have jobs therfore they could by a new house car ect. to bring up the housing market. And unimployment rates wouldent be 8.1%

The goverment is taking over buisnesses. As soon as the goverment steps in everything gos into anarchy. Look at the Post Office, its about to go under anyday know. And the Banks wont giv out loans. The goverment is supposed to protect its citizens not controll them.


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Signal on Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:06 pm

Link3618 wrote:and Henry Ford... those are just some of the multi million airs, but there are a lot of above averge people that were born into poverty and did something with their life.


Henry Ford was not born into success, and hes dead, he worked hard to achieve his goals, and was not interested in money, he was interested in creating better jobs and conditions for the average working person and creating a good, cheap car

Millionaire*... millionaire...


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Chaos171 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:17 pm

Signal wrote:
Link3618 wrote:and Henry Ford... those are just some of the multi million airs, but there are a lot of above averge people that were born into poverty and did something with their life.


Henry Ford was not born into success, and hes dead, he worked hard to achieve his goals, and was not interested in money, he was interested in creating better jobs and conditions for the average working person and creating a good, cheap car

Millionaire*... millionaire...


yeah i just read the other day that he donated a couple million to the govermnet(it said the highest amount ever given but i don't know if that counts money change cause a couple mil back then is more then it is now)


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Lord Revan67 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:19 pm

Link3618 wrote:It is not fair for people who go to collage for 10 freakin years and have to pay exstream taxes for slakers who live in a motel, and are unimployed...

Everyone has a chance to suceed even if u are born into poverty. Look at Tyra Banks, Opera, and Henry Ford... those are just some of the multi million airs, but there are a lot of above averge people that were born into poverty and did something with their life.

The Bible even states there shall always be the poor, and the rich

Most Liberal People are unimployed, collage students, and with obama black peopl (i am not a rasist i am watching this poll on Hannity right now)

Liberals wont look back into the regan era. I mean if u dont over tax the companies exstream amounts, they could hire, and then people could make money, and buy a new house or car and its a chain to stimulate the economy.

For my dads company over 20 people a day are getting laid off. Now if the goverment wasnt over taxing Roadway/Yellow they could keep those people and they would have jobs therfore they could by a new house car ect. to bring up the housing market. And unimployment rates wouldent be 8.1%

The goverment is taking over buisnesses. As soon as the goverment steps in everything gos into anarchy. Look at the Post Office, its about to go under anyday know. And the Banks wont giv out loans. The goverment is supposed to protect its citizens not controll them.


The bible has nothing to do with this, and there does not have to be a rich and poor. There can be different classes of people, but the lower class shouldn't be as bad as it is, and it shouldnt have such a big population. My dad had to fire an entire store because it wasnt making money, and those people will most likely not be finding jobs with a pay higher or as good as they had, or maybe at all. That isnt because of the government controlling citizens, its because of poor past governmental choices.

We arent doing good right now, and nothing is going to happen to fix it any time soon. What can and has a high chance of happening is a slow recovery from the current economical state.


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Link3618 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:13 am

Lord Revan67 wrote:
Link3618 wrote:It is not fair for people who go to collage for 10 freakin years and have to pay exstream taxes for slakers who live in a motel, and are unimployed...

Everyone has a chance to suceed even if u are born into poverty. Look at Tyra Banks, Opera, and Henry Ford... those are just some of the multi million airs, but there are a lot of above averge people that were born into poverty and did something with their life.

The Bible even states there shall always be the poor, and the rich

Most Liberal People are unimployed, collage students, and with obama black peopl (i am not a rasist i am watching this poll on Hannity right now)

Liberals wont look back into the regan era. I mean if u dont over tax the companies exstream amounts, they could hire, and then people could make money, and buy a new house or car and its a chain to stimulate the economy.

For my dads company over 20 people a day are getting laid off. Now if the goverment wasnt over taxing Roadway/Yellow they could keep those people and they would have jobs therfore they could by a new house car ect. to bring up the housing market. And unimployment rates wouldent be 8.1%

The goverment is taking over buisnesses. As soon as the goverment steps in everything gos into anarchy. Look at the Post Office, its about to go under anyday know. And the Banks wont giv out loans. The goverment is supposed to protect its citizens not controll them.


The bible has nothing to do with this, and there does not have to be a rich and poor. There can be different classes of people, but the lower class shouldn't be as bad as it is, and it shouldnt have such a big population. My dad had to fire an entire store because it wasnt making money, and those people will most likely not be finding jobs with a pay higher or as good as they had, or maybe at all. That isnt because of the government controlling citizens, its because of poor past governmental choices.

We arent doing good right now, and nothing is going to happen to fix it any time soon. What can and has a high chance of happening is a slow recovery from the current economical state.


ok u ding dong signal... he waz born into poverty not sucsess

And Reavan u dont understand....Liberals are to stuburn to try past actions, that worked, and try there own ideas tht will fail...

I dont want Obama to fail, but i want to see him fail... just so i could say... told ya so


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Re: Obama.....

Post  ZaK on Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:23 am

So link you would basically see the end of the US economy just to tell everyone "i told you so." Obama is doing the best he can ite...your not the f*cking president of the US and you have never been therfore you cannot chastise him on his workings because you have never been face to face with what he deals with.

You forget link tere is so much we dont know that goverments know, all corporations are keeping him on a tight leash...yes corporations are more powerful then the goverment. Also he most likely has secret operation shit that has been conductiing for awhile now (area 51, submarines etc.) So give the guy a brake...Jhon Mccain had like cancer and shit and he was like 65...yea thats a good choice for a president...


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Link3618 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:30 pm

Linkpwnzall wrote:So link you would basically see the end of the US economy just to tell everyone "i told you so." Obama is doing the best he can ite...your not the f*cking president of the US and you have never been therfore you cannot chastise him on his workings because you have never been face to face with what he deals with.

You forget link tere is so much we dont know that goverments know, all corporations are keeping him on a tight leash...yes corporations are more powerful then the goverment. Also he most likely has secret operation shit that has been conductiing for awhile now (area 51, submarines etc.) So give the guy a brake...Jhon Mccain had like cancer and shit and he was like 65...yea thats a good choice for a president...


dude u dont know anything about US polotics, his views arnt what the country needs right now, and he wont look into the past to see what other presidents did to get out of resesions.


Soon the goverment is going to control all the corperartions, and that is not what this country is about.


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Signal on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:20 pm

Link3618 wrote:
Linkpwnzall wrote:So link you would basically see the end of the US economy just to tell everyone "i told you so." Obama is doing the best he can ite...your not the f*cking president of the US and you have never been therfore you cannot chastise him on his workings because you have never been face to face with what he deals with.

You forget link tere is so much we dont know that goverments know, all corporations are keeping him on a tight leash...yes corporations are more powerful then the goverment. Also he most likely has secret operation shit that has been conductiing for awhile now (area 51, submarines etc.) So give the guy a brake...Jhon Mccain had like cancer and shit and he was like 65...yea thats a good choice for a president...


dude u dont know anything about US polotics, his views arnt what the country needs right now, and he wont look into the past to see what other presidents did to get out of resesions.


Soon the goverment is going to control all the corperartions, and that is not what this country is about.


They won't make the same mistakes Russia made, Obama isn't the stupid **** you conceive of him as


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Lord Revan67 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:59 pm

Ya comrade Link take it easy.


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Aston_Martin_DB9 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:17 am

Link3618 wrote:It is not fair for people who go to collage for 10 freakin years and have to pay exstream taxes for slakers who live in a motel, and are unimployed...


People who have gone to college for 10 years are losing their jobs, and they will start claiming benefits like the people you have mentioned here, now just because they have lost their jobs, are they "slakers" aswell? 90% of people claiming benefits deserve the money they get.

Link3618 wrote:Everyone has a chance to suceed even if u are born into poverty. Look at Tyra Banks, Opera, and Henry Ford... those are just some of the multi million airs, but there are a lot of above averge people that were born into poverty and did something with their life.


Out of 300 million people, the few who have made it big even though they were poor growing up isn't a big enough percentage to suggest that everyone is giving the chance to succeed, the government makes rich people richer and poor people poorer.

Link3618 wrote:The Bible even states there shall always be the poor, and the rich


Your not protestant are you? In the Catholic Bible it states that it is the poor man that is really rich, as greed is not part of their life and family is more important than what they have parked in their driveway.

Link3618 wrote:Liberals wont look back into the regan era. I mean if u dont over tax the companies exstream amounts, they could hire, and then people could make money, and buy a new house or car and its a chain to stimulate the economy.


Governments don't really tax companies, otherwise the companies wouldn't set up business there in the first place. It's the fact that Poland and China has people that will work for less than $1 an hour. It's so cheap in these countries that they close down in Ireland and America and set up Business there.

Link3618 wrote:For my dads company over 20 people a day are getting laid off. Now if the goverment wasnt over taxing Roadway/Yellow they could keep those people and they would have jobs therfore they could by a new house car ect. to bring up the housing market. And unimployment rates wouldent be 8.1%


Even if the government could stop these companies laying off workers, it would be more expensive to do so than to let the unemployment rate go up even further.

I hope that you are happy that I am debating with you and not just telling you that you're wrong, so I'd like you to read this and give back some of your opinions


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Re: Obama.....

Post  Lord Revan67 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:58 pm

I agree well done. I was going to post that except you got there first. Lol nice arguments.


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